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- From: djarvis@u.washington.edu (David Jarvis)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
- Subject: Re: FinalWriter for Windows 95
- Date: 5 Mar 1996 00:07:40 GMT
- Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
- Message-ID: <4hg0kc$2jm@nntp5.u.washington.edu>
- References: <4hbk06$cne@nntp5.u.washington.edu> <woody-0403960709310001@woody.softwood.com>
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-
- In article <woody-0403960709310001@woody.softwood.com>,
- Woody Williams <woody@softwood.com> wrote:
- >In article <4hbk06$cne@nntp5.u.washington.edu>, djarvis@u.washington.edu
- >(David Jarvis) wrote:
- >
- >> Well it looks like Final Writer finally has True Type fonts, RTF
- >> import/export, 20 different graphics formats imported, and print
- >> previews. There's just one catch- all of those features are on their new
- >> version for Windows '95! Oh, and the real kicker is that anyone who want
- >> can get THE FULL version FOR FREE (minus the spell-checker, grammar checker,
- >> and hyphenator).
- >>
- >> I wonder how much the next update to Final Writer will cost us Amiga
- >> users who have been updating all along, obviously paying for the free FW'95?
- >>
- >> I visited Softwood's web page (http://www.softwood.com) tonight and saw
- >> all of this. I told them on e-mail that if these features weren't in the
- >> FW update that Woody was talking about here, I wouldn't upgrade.
- >>
- >> What bugs me about this is that Amiga users have been asking for the
- >> graphics and import/export features all along, while we still supported
- >> Softwood, recieving mostly cosmetic upgrades in return, but understanding
- >> that there was only so many programmers and so much budget etc, and now
- >> it looks like the dearth of programmers has been because for the last 2
- >> 1/2 years they've been working on a W'95 version!
- >>
- >> Oh well. It remains for Woody to show us with the next FW upgrade that
- >> he's developing for the Amiga like he's developing for Windows, and not
- >> just throwing us make-up over an aging product.
- >>
- >> David Jarvis
- >
- >
- >Thank you for your understanding of a complex issue, David.
- >
- Your welcome
-
- >You complain about the small upgrade fees we have charged in the face of
- >zero new Amiga sales in the USA over the last year and a half, as well as
- >a complete disregard from AT to include SoftWood products in their recent
- >bundles. You complain about features lacking in our Amiga product that
- >you suddenly discover have been put in a Win95 version. Look, for your
- >information, there is a ton of libraries, utilitites, and other software
- >already developed for Windows that developers can purchase and include in
- >their programs for a small upfront fee.
- >
- >On the Amiga, we have included everything we could get our hands on to put
- >into Final Writer. The problem is, there just isn't as much software
- >available, and we don't realize enough sales to justify hiring ten
- >programmers. For the Win95 version, all we had to do was look in
- >"Programmers Paradise" magazine and find all of the utilities we needed!
- >It would be nice if we could do this on the Amiga. If we could, I assure
- >you everything would be in the Amiga version.
- >
- >As far as SoftWood programmers working on a Windows95 version--that just
- >isn't the case. No programmer working in-house at SoftWood has worked on
- >any other platform other than the Amiga. An outside company approached me
- >2 1/2 years ago about letting them port FW to run under Windows. Back
- >then it seemed like a good idea, and after reading comments like yours, it
- >still does.
-
- I'm sorry to have upset you. Hit it was reading your web pages with all
- the glowing stuff about the new Window '95 FW that the company was
- devoted to that got me upset. I suggest you consider adding more
- information to the Amiga sections of your Web pages if you don't want
- people to get the wrong ideas like I did.
-
- >Datatype support, RTF import/export, Tables, AutoCorrect, and a bunch of
- >other enhancements will be in Final Writer 5 for the Amiga due in April.
- >Since you like to bad mouth us when all we are tyring to do is stay in
- >business, I am sure you would not be disturbed to not get an upgrade
- >notice.
-
- I have been asking for RTF and/or Word import/export for YEARS. So I
- would be pretty ticked not to get an upgrade notice! It hasn't been so
- easy being an Amiga user either having to work with other people who have
- no difficulty sharing documents. But I prefer the OS, and I prefer Final
- Writer over Word, believe it or not. That is why I have spent the
- upgrade fees all this time.
-
- >
- >The amounts we charge for each update is nothing compared to the expense I
- >incur in developing the update. My company lives from upgrade to upgrade,
- >and when I read comments like yours, I wonder if it is worth the trouble.
- >
-
- What am I supposed to say to that? Again, it isn't that you have a W'95
- product that bugs me, it is that your web pages positively glow about it,
- but do not mention the same enhancements for your Amiga FW. So a user
- like me could naturally wonder if all those upgrade fees, hoping that FW
- would get the features I wanted, were "worth the trouble" also. I just
- bought an accelarator card on the gamble that the Softwood products
- especially, and Amiga software in general, would keep improving based on new
- Amiga sales.
-
- I suggest we quit growling at each other. We BOTH were justifiably upset
- from opposite sides of the SAME reasons.
-
- I suggest that the Softwood web pages include the information on the
- Amiga product that you provided here, which is more than I have read in
- this area in quite some time. Then post your new web page addresses to
- all the relevant areas, Amiga and Windows. The format of the pages is
- really slick - if the content is as good, it should be great marketing,
- not just something to argue over. Also, you might include the address in
- your .signature file, for the extra marketing.
-
- David Jarvis
-
- >Woody
- >
- >--
- >Woody
-
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